Results
Between 2016 and 2021an annual average of 13110 +/- 1860 crows were counted flying towards the Bothell roost (Table 1). During this time, large pre-roosting aggregations were consistently observed near the roost. In 2022, total counts swelled to 20,774, and pre-roosting behavior did not appear unusual. Based on this increase, we resurveyed crow approach behavior. In November 2023, we observed a newly-established roost in Redmond, WA (Figure 3). This site was visited in 2019, and noroosting behavior was observed. A
Table 1. Annual total crow counts from 2016-2025 Pilchuck Audubon Society’s Edmonds CBCs. Although counts at LW, LBC, and NC decreased precipitously after 2022, estimates at LW and NC remained in the 1,000s, while counts at LBC dwindled into the low 100s. It is likely that crows altered their flight paths as they abandoned the Bothell roost in favor of roosts in Redmond and North Bothell
Table 1 Total annual crow counts from the 2016-2025 Pilchuck Audubon Society’s Edmonds CBCs. Numbers at original counting sites were stable from 2016-2021, nearly doubled in 2022, then decreased precipitously from 2023-2025 (Figure 2) Alt Text:
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In 2023, to account for crows moving towards this new roost, we established a new counting location along the Sammamish River (SR), 3.4 km SSE of the Bothell roost (Figure 3). 2023 total counts at MC, LW, and LBC decreased to 8,969, while counts at SR were 9,823. In 2024 and 2025, counts at MC, LW, and LBC continued to decline to 4,043 and 3,634, respectively.
Numbers at SR, representing birds moving towards the Redmond roost, decreased in 2024 and 2025 to 8,603 and 7,397, respectively. Due to these changes, approach behavior was resurveyed. In December 2024, a roost of thousands of crows was discovered in Mountlake Terrace, WA (47.782571, -122.329949). It is unclear how long crows had used this site;it had not previously been recognized as a roost and by January 2025 it was abandoned. In December 2025, we observed a roost of approximately 200 birds in north Bothell, WA. A. By January 2026, this site was abandoned. However, in March 2026, observations of nearby pre-roosting behavior led us to discover another, larger roost in North Bothell (47.807556, -122.210194) very close to this ephemeral roosting site (). It is unclear when this roost was established, but it was not previously detected and consists of thousands of individuals, suggesting it is also new. This roost is 5.5 km NNE of the former, now abandoned Bothell, WA roost and is also adjacent to North Creek. Habitat Descriptions Needed
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. Crow counting locations for assessing roost usage appear as binoculars on the map: Swamp Creek (SC), Lynnwood, WA (47.852659, -122.260422), North Creek (NC), Mill Creek, WA (47.85203, -122.21981), Lake Washington (LW), Kenmore, WA (47.75636, -122.26382), and Little Bear Creek (LBC), Woodinville, WA (47.79298, -122.14161). In 2023 an additional counting location was established at Sammamish River (SR), Woodinville, WA (47.739647, -122.154530). Arrows show the general direction of daily movement of crows towards their roosts. The Bothell communal roost (now defunct) appears in the center of the map as a crow icon in a gold circle (47.76096, -122.18621). The newly identified roosts in Redmond (47.70682, -122.15139) and North Bothell (47.807405, -122.207482), south and north of this former roost, appear as crow icons in white circles. Ephemeral roosting sites appear as crow icons in orange circles. Map created in ArcGIS Online.
Figure 3 The five crow counting locations, three communal crow roosts, two ephemeral roosting sites, and waterways surrounding Lake Washington in western Washington state. Alt Text:
Do you have any conflicts of interest that could bias your ability to provide an independent review?
Tyler Brasington
No
Sunny Corrao
No
Grace Kahler
No
Daniel Ludwig
NO
Reviewer 4
No
What did the authors do a good job with?
Tyler Brasington
The authors describe a method employing citizen science to produce annual estimates of crows at a large communal roost in Washington state. They do a good job providing an overview of the data collected. I believe there are several sections that warrant further detail to provide readers better context, but also to solidify the significance of the method being discussed in this paper. This paper should be accepted with major revisions to include more information and depth.
Sunny Corrao
Figures created are strong and supportive. Authors are clear there are still unknowns regarding roosting behaviors such as why they disappear and other locations chosen.
Grace Kahler
The authors provided a concise and informative narrative of their study. I was a big fan of the figure 3, as that helped greatly in visualizing how and where crows were counted. The authors had a solid discussion section and I loved the practical application of this new protocol that can be applied for other areas looking to track roosts with the general public as volunteers.
Daniel Ludwig
Rating - Good. This paper seems more suited to a state ornithological journal or bird club newsletter. The paper focuses on a technique used by citizen scientists but already and currently routinely used by professional biologists (i.e. before the emergence of citizen scientists in the 1990s. It is of limited interest to urban wildlife management. Good habitat descriptions of the Bothell area and especially the roosts sites would increase the value of this paper.
Reviewer 4
Excellent writing for this draft, concise but thorough
How do you think this research will contribute to the field?
Tyler Brasington
This research highlights citizen science, a crucially important method in an era of reduced federal, state funding and staffing. It provides a method for others to employ.
Sunny Corrao
Further supports the use of community scientists as an asset for rigorous research. Also appreciate their methodology uses observational, non-invasive research methods.
Grace Kahler
The application of this protocol to confirm roosts and help identify and expand our knowledge of wild crow behavior.
Daniel Ludwig
Perhaps in a small way. It could be used in presentations to train citizen scientists and enough them to collect data accurately.
Reviewer 4
More accurate estimations of species numbers; these methods could be used for SGCN
Regarding the study design and methods, what do the authors need to fix or improve upon to be fit for publication?
Tyler Brasington
The authors state they are describing a citizen science based effort - but they fail to define what citizen science is; its pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. This is critical to the overall utility of the paper. The methods stand alone, however, could be strengthened by providing details - specifically on protocols referenced but never defined.
Sunny Corrao
Flow of methods section can be tightened up. Maybe separate with subheadings: CBC dataset and what was done to standardize 30yr count, and your protocol description. Authors should include more detail on how they went about standardizing the CBC dataset.
Grace Kahler
There is missing information on how things were done differently during 2020.
Daniel Ludwig
Provide habiata descriptions of the Bothell are and especially the roosts sites.
Reviewer 4
I think a figure showing the roost area would benefit this section.
Regarding the analysis and interpretation of their findings, what do the authors need to fix or improve upon to be fit for publication?
Tyler Brasington
The discussion needs to be strengthen as does the introduction with reference to citizen science. The authors talk about crows, but never really discuss what citizen science is and what other studies have incorporated this method. The discussion is the perfect place to elaborate. The results stand alone, but the discussion could be strengthened.
Sunny Corrao
Respond to comments and edits from reviewers in document, and discuss “why” this understanding of roosting behavior is important to conservation/land management/research practices/etc etc. See following comment
Grace Kahler
There are a few anecdotal findings reported in the results, those should be moved into the discussion and expanded upon how that could affect results.
Daniel Ludwig
Please see my comments.
Reviewer 4
An analysis comparing numbers of each site across years could be beneficial for this study, or maybe probability of AMCR use of potential roost sites based off certain environmental factors.
Is there anything else you think the authors need to fix in their article to be fit for publication?
Tyler Brasington
The introduction could include more information on the biology and ecology of crows, and their relationship and similarities to other corvids. This would be beneficial to other researchers. The introduction would also benefit from a brief synopsis of what is citizen science, where it has been used, etc.
Sunny Corrao
The authors should comment on the “why” understanding roosting behavior in crows may be important to know (outside of just understanding behavior and getting citizen scientists involved). What is the larger picture and why is this research important? Are there implications for land management decisions, etc.
Grace Kahler
There needs to be more information on the habitat of Bothell, WA and around roost sites.
Daniel Ludwig
Allmy suggestions are noted in the draft I provided to Stacks.
Reviewer 4
More could be done on the analysis and discussion end, I think the data is there, but not sure there is enough of an analysis or discussion for a publication
Do you have any concerns about the ethics of this research?
Tyler Brasington
No
Sunny Corrao
No concerns.
Grace Kahler
no
Daniel Ludwig
No.
Reviewer 4
No